Sunday, November 09, 2008

To Hell with the Opposition 2

El Badeel

Exposes the Deal
















The deal is a "Dirty" one. The regime hands are soiled with guilt and responsibility by vacating the crime scene to the perpetrators despite advance warnings and complaints made by El Ghad party members to Kasr El Nil police station several days before the incident. But let us not fool ourselves. Mousa is only a button, he acts for and on behalf of the regime. Something of this gravity could have never happened in broad day light like this without the regime's approval, in fact, blessings, or even clear orders to "carry out" operation "Torch the Opposition."

The above photos (Source: El Badeel Newspaper) show one of the thugs "Waleed" making way for "Mousa Mostafa Mousa" and "Ragab Helal Hemida", then setting El Ghad Building on fire. A Video which El Badeel keeps, shows "Ragab Helal Hemida" giving instructions to "Waleed" to set the building ablaze. "Waleed" is shown in the photos wrestling with a fireman to prevent him from putting out the fire. El Badeel also has a video showing "Waleed" trying to unplug water hoses off the fire engine to prevent fire fighters from doing their job.


Despite this over-whelming published evidence, Attorney General has informally accused the victims, leaders of El Ghad Party entrapped inside the building at the time of the attack, of setting fire in their own office and has not to-date called "Mousa Mostafa Mousa" or "Ragab Helal Hemida" for questioning or directed any accusations against them.


"Mousa Mostafa Mousa" is the brother of "Aly Mousa", a close ally to "Gamal Mubarak" in the Policies Committee, of the ruling Party, NDP. Mousa Mostafa Mousa, despite having being fired from El Ghad in 2005, has obtained a court order from the regime that he is the President of El Ghad Opposition Party. Mousa is a strong supporter of NDP and the regime. Gameela Ismael has affirmed that El Ghad fight is not against Mousa or Ragab, who are merely finger-men, simply "buttons", "tools" or "gloves" which the regime used against El Ghad, but the fight is against the regime itself.


In 2005, it was hinted that NDP leaders were involved in a plot to control El Ghad Party through jailing Ayman Nour and placing Mousa Mostafa Mousa in his seat. Mousa was fired from the party following misconduct as he removed Ibrahim Eisa, Editor-in-Chief from El Ghad newspaper against a clear mandate by the General Assembly of El Ghad Party that elected Eisa as the editor in chief of the Party's newspaper.


Mousa further worked against Nour in the first multi-candidate presidential elections ever witnessed in Egypt but Nour managed to clinch a second position in the presidential race despite wide irregularities and abuse of power which marred the elections.




For more information:






In the Company of Thugs

جريدة البديل تفضح المؤامرة

El Badeel Newspaper Exposes the Crime














بالصور: مرافق لموسي مصطفي يقود الهجوم علي حزب الغد ويشارك في إحراقه




08/11/2008


المرافق يفسح الطريق أمام موسي وحميدة ويمنع الصحفيين عنهما.. ثم يتجه إلي بوابة المقر لإلقاء زجاجات حارقة

رجب حميدة ينادي علي المرافق: «يا وليد».. وبعدها يبدأ «وليد» الهجوم ويعتدي علي رجال الإطفاء لمنعهم من إخماد الحريق

كتب: عمر الهادي

حصلت «البديل» علي صور ولقطات فيديو تظهر تورط مرافق شخصي لموسي مصطفي موسي، رئيس حزب الغد، في قيادة أحداث العنف التي شهدها مقر حزب الغد ـ جبهة أيمن نور بميدان طلعت حرب وأدت إلي احتراق المقر أمس الأول، وتظهر الصور شخصاً ضخم البنية يرتدي «تي شيرت» بنفسجي اللون يرافق مصطفي موسي ورجب هلال حميدة عضو مجلس الشعب، أثناء توجههما إلي ميدان طلعت حرب ويفسح الطريق لهما ويبعد الصحفيين والمصورين عنهما، كما تظهر الصور ذلك الشخص وهو يتزعم عملية اقتحام بوابة العمارة التي يقع بها مقر حزب الغد وإلقاء زجاجات حارقة، ويبدو الشخص في صور أخري وهو يوجه جموع المهاجمين لمقر «جبهة نور».

وفي تسجيل فيديو، لدي «البديل»، يظهر رجب هلال حميدة، القيادي بجبهة مصطفي موسي، وهو ينادي هذا الشخص قائلاً: «يا وليد..» قبل أن يأمره بتنظيم حركة زملائه يميناً ويساراً.

كما يظهر المدعو «وليد» في فيديو آخر ـ تمتلك «البديل» نسخة منه ـ وهو يحاول إعاقة عمل قوات الإطفاء التي جاءت لإخماد حريق مقر الغد، وهدد رجال الإطفاء فور وصولهم، وعندما لم يستجيبوا له اعتدي علي أحدهم بعصا خشبية، ونزع منه خرطوم المياه، وذلك في غياب أمني نادر الحدوث بميدان طلعت حرب، وهو الميدان الذي شهد في السنوات الأخيرة تمركزات شرطية ثابتة في شارع محمود بسيوني الذي يقع به حزبا الغد والتجمع وأخلت النيابة سبيل 41 متهما من جبهة أيمن نور و14 من أنصار موسي بعد تحقيقات لمدة 12 ساعة، ووجهت النيابة 10 اتهامات لجميلة إسماعيل منها إتلاف ممتلكات الغير وحيازة زجاجات حارقة وتكوين جماعة للقيام بأعمال حزبية وإصدار بطاقات لحزب «الغد» دون سند من القانون.



El Badeel
Exposes the Deal

The above photos (Source: El Badeel Newspaper) show one of the thugs "Waleed" making way for "Mousa Mostafa Mousa" and "Ragab Helal Hemida", then setting El Ghad Building on fire. A Video which El Badeel keeps, shows "Ragab Helal Hemida" giving instructions to "Waleed" to set the building ablaze. "Waleed" is shown in the photos wrestling with a fireman to prevent him from putting out the fire. El Badeel also has a video showing "Waleed" trying to unplug water hoses off the fire engine to prevent fire fighters from doing their job.
Despite this over-whelming published evidence, Attorney General has accused the victims, leaders of El Ghad Party entrapped inside the building at the time of the attack of setting fire in their own office and has not to-date called "Mousa Mostafa Mousa" or "ragab Helal Hemida" for questioning or directed any accusations against them.
"Mousa Mostafa Mousa" is the brother of "Aly Mousa", a close ally to "Gamal Mubarak" in the Policies Committee, of the ruling Party, NDP. Mousa Mostafa Mousa, despite having being fired from El Ghad in 2005, has obtained a court order from the regime that he is the President of El Ghad Opposition Party. Mousa is a strong supporter of NDP and the regime. Gameela Ismael has affirmed that our fight is not against Mousa or Ragab, who are merely finger-men, simply "buttons", "tools" or "gloves" which the regime used against El Ghad, but the fight is against the regime itself.
In 2005, it was hinted that NDP leaders were involved in a plot to control El Ghad Party through jailing Ayman Nour and placing Mousa Mostafa Mousa in his seat. Mousa was fired from the party following misconduct as he removed Ibrahim Eisa, Editor-in-Chief from El Ghad newspaper against a clear mandate by the General Assembly of El Ghad Party that elected Eisa as the editor in chief of the Party's newspaper.
Mousa further worked against Nour in the first multi-candidate presidential elections ever witnessed in Egypt but Nour managed to clinch a second position in the presidential race despite wide irregularities and abuse of power which marred the elections.








Saturday, November 08, 2008

Torching Opposition

الفكر الجديد

وأسلوب جديد حاسم في مواجهة المعارضة





هكذا يتعامل الفكر الجديد مع المعارضة.

هذه هي ملامح الإصلاح السياسي طبقاً لوعود مبارك الانتخابية.

هذه هي ثالث مرة يتعرض أحد مقرات حزب الغد للحرق المتعمد. تم حرق مقر باب الشعرية مرتين من قبل وهذه هي المرة الثالثة، بحرق مقر الحزب في ميدان طلعت حرب في وسط النهار، تحت سمع وبصر رجال الأمن المتخفين في ملابس مدنية، ولا ننسى محاولات اغتيال أعضاء الغد في كفر صقر وفي بنها والتعدي عليهم في فندق بيراميزا.

لقد تقدمت جميلة اسماعيل ببلاغ رسمي في قسم شرطة قصر النيل قبل الحادث بيومين، بناء على تهديدات نشرها موسى موسى في البديل، وسجلت هذا في محضر شرطة رسمي، بعدم تعرض موسى مصطفى موسى للجمعية العمومية لحزب الغد التي دعا إليها مجلس حكماء الحزب. ولكن الشرطة بدلاً من أن تبعث بقواتها، سحبت حتى خدمة حراسة ميدان طلعت حرب، ووقف رجال المرور يفسحون الطريق للبلطجية ليقوموا بمهاجمة وحرق مقر حزب الغد بقيادة موسى موسى. وموسى موسى لمن لا يعلم هو أخو على موسى عضو لجنة السياسات والصديق الصدوق لجمال مبارك.

ورفيق موسى في تدبير الهجوم هو رجب هلال حميدة، الذي لعب نفس الدور في تفتيت حزب الأحرار، ورجب أصبح بهذه الخدمات الجليلة للنظام حبيب الحكومة، فأهدته الحكومة مقعداً في مجلس الشعب في عام 2005، وأصدر مبارك قرارا بعلاجه على نفقة الدولة، موسى ورجب هما اللذان أوقفا نشر جريدة الغد وأقصيا إبراهيم عيسى من رئاسة تحرير الغد إبان سجن أيمن نور. موسى كما نعلم لا لوم عليه، لأنه مجرد عميل للأمن، واللوم كله، والمسئولية كلها يتحملها النظام من بدايتها لنهايتها.


لا يمكن أن نتصور أن أي مسئول مهما علا شأنه كان يتحمل وحده إمكانية اشتعال وسط القاهرة كلها لأننا نعلم أن الحرائق لا يمكن التأكد من السيطرة عليها، لا يمكن أن أتصور أن رأس النظام لا يعلم، فإن كان لا يعلم، فهي كارثة، وإن كان يعلم وسعيد وراض بهذا الأسلوب في التعامل مع المعارضة بالحرق، فالكارثة أعمق والصدمة أكبر.

إذا كان مبارك لا يعلم، فها هو نحن نعلمه، أن بعضاً من رجالك، رجال الأمن المحسوبين عليك، قد خططوا لقتل وحرق أعضاء حزب سياسي معارض، ونرجو أن نعرف رد فعلك أنت كرئيس لدولة نفترض أن القانون يحكمها، على هذه المسخرة الدامية المليئة بالحريق والدخان والتي حدثت في وسط البلد جهاراً نهاراً على مرأى ومسمع من الجميع، وسجلت أحداثها الصور والأفلام رغم أن رجال الأمن المتخفين منعوا رجال الإعلام من التصوير.



ما هو الهدف من حرق مقر حزب الغد؟

الهدف الأكيد هو القضاء على الحزب المعارض الوحيد الباقي في مصر.
الهدف الأكيد هو إرهاب المعارضين من قيادات الغد بتهم ملفقة، إما أن تصمتوا وتنصاعوا، أو تتعرضوا للسجن والعقوبات الأخرى.

هو إظهار الأمور بأن الأحزاب جميعاً تعاني من الخلافات ومليئة بالبلطجة، وخاصة بعد الموقف المشابه في حزب الوفد، وأنه من الأفضل للمواطن العادي أن يلزم بيته ويبتعد عن المشاكل ويكتفي بأن يفوض الحزب الوطني في إدارة شئون البلاد بالطريقة التي يراها.

الهدف من حرق حزب الغد في هذا التوقيت بالذات أن هذه الجمعية العمومية تحسم الوضع القانوني في الحزب وتقضي على الحجج الواهية التي يتمسح بها عملاء الأمن ممثلي لجنة السياسات في أحزاب المعارضة. الهدف من حرق حزب الغد في هذا الوقت بالذات أن الحزب كان قد اكتسب أرضية واسعة في الشارع بعد أحداث 6 إبريل ونشاط شباب الحزب على الفيس بوك والمدونات.

عندما أتى المحامي العام ليعاين الحزب والمبنى، شاهد آثار الطوب والزجاج والتكسير داخل حزب الغد وداخل النادي اليوناني الذي يقع أسفل الحزب، وسمع بنفسه من العمال الذين كانوا يقومون بطلاء النادي اليوناني كيف أتت مجموعة من البلطجية وحاولت اقتحام المبنى، ولما فشلت في ذلك قامت بحرق بوابة المبنى ثم حرق مقر الغد.

وأمام المحامي العام ونحن في النادي اليوناني، سألت مأمور شرطة قسم قصر النيل، كيف طاوعك ضميرك أن تتقاعس عن حمايتنا وتتركنا نتعرض للحرق والقتل؟ فنظر في الأرض ولم يقو على أن ينظر في عيني.


ذهبنا لنشكو من الهجوم وندلي بأقوالنا فتحولنا من مجني عليهم لمتهمين بأننا نحن الذين قمنا بحرق المبنى على أنفسنا! وأن المهاجمين كانوا في مسيرة سلمية ضد إسرائيل، وبالصدفة أن تلك المسيرة حاولت اقتحام مقر الغد.

وأنه بالصدفة أن مقر الغد حرق من قبل مرتين في باب الشعرية.

وأنه من باب الصدفة أن رجال الأمن اختفوا من المنطقة لساعتين كاملتين رغم أننا أبلغنا قسم شرطة قصر النيل، ومديرية الأمن ولجنة شئون الأحزاب بمجلس الشورى. كل هذا من باب الصدفة.



وتذكرت مواقف سابقة في كفر صقر وفي أثناء انتخابات الرياسة، عندما كان يطرق المسئولون وينظرون في الأرض والشعور بالخجل بل بالعار يفضح الضغط الذي تعرضوا له من رؤسائهم.


من الممكن أن يحرقوا مقار الغد وسجلاته. من الممكن أن يحرقوا أجسادنا. ولكنهم لن يستطيعوا أن يحرقوا أحلامنا أو مبادئنا.


Opposition Goes to Hell 1

Opposition Goes to Hell





After the vicious attacks lodged by NDP leaders on opposition during their annual conference held a few days ago, it seems that the regime decided to send the opposition to hell, starting with El Ghad Party.

In the land of Egypt, pro-government politicians attain high offices, control multi-billion dollar lucrative monopolies, are rewarded with vast pieces of premium real-estate of state-land at fraction of market price. Opposition, on the other hand, goes to hell. The regime has decided to give El Ghad an early taste of judgment day on the morning of Thursday 6th November, 2008, in El Ghad Headquarters.

As the party was preparing for its annual general assembly, a large mob of thugs made its way towards the party headquarters Talaat Harb Square, in downtown Cairo. Security forces disappeared from the scene mysteriously. This made everyone at El Ghad nervous. Usually, whenever El Ghad party holds even a small conference, hundreds of security forces would surround the area. On Thursday morning, there was no one in uniform in sight.






Wednesday, November 05, 2008

Yes We Can: Victory Speech

Yes We Can !
Victory Speech

Photo: Reuters


"If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible, who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time, who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer.
It's the answer told by lines that stretched around schools and churches in numbers this nation has never seen, by people who waited three hours and four hours, many for the very first time in their lives, because they believed that this time must be different, that their voice could be that difference.
It's the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Latino, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled - Americans who sent a message to the world that we have never been a collection of Red States and Blue States: we are, and always will be, the United States of America.
It's the answer that led those who have been told for so long by so many to be cynical, and fearful, and doubtful of what we can achieve to put their hands on the arc of history and bend it once more toward the hope of a better day.
It's been a long time coming, but tonight, because of what we did on this day, in this election, at this defining moment, change has come to America.




'Unyielding support'

I just received a very gracious call from Senator McCain. He ought long and hard in this campaign, and he’s fought even longer and harder for the country he loves. He has endured sacrifices for America that most of us cannot begin to imagine, and we are better off for the service rendered by this brave and selfless leader. I congratulate him and Governor Palin for all they have achieved, and I look forward to working with them to renew this nation's promise in the months ahead.

I want to thank my partner in this journey, a man who campaigned from his heart and spoke for the men and women he grew up with on the streets of Scranton and rode with on that train home to Delaware, the vice president-elect of the United States, Joe Biden.

I would not be standing here tonight without the unyielding support of my best friend for the last sixteen years, the rock of our family and the love of my life, our nation’s next First Lady, Michelle Obama. Sasha and Malia, I love you both so much, and you have earned the new puppy that's coming with us to the White House. And while she's no longer with us, I know my grandmother is watching, along with the family that made me who I am. I miss them tonight, and know that my debt to them is beyond measure.
To my campaign manager David Plouffe, my chief strategist David Axelrod, and the best campaign team ever assembled in the history of politics - you made this happen, and I am forever grateful for what you’ve sacrificed to get it done.
But above all, I will never forget who this victory truly belongs to - it belongs to you.

I was never the likeliest candidate for this office. We didn’t start with much money or many endorsements. Our campaign was not hatched in the halls of Washington - it began in the backyards of Des Moines and the living rooms of Concord and the front porches of Charleston.




'Task ahead'


It was built by working men and women who dug into what little savings they had to give five dollars and ten dollars and twenty dollars to this cause. It grew strength from the young people who rejected the myth of their generation's apathy, who left their homes and their families for jobs that offered little pay and less sleep, from the not-so-young people who braved the bitter cold and scorching heat to knock on the doors of perfect strangers, from the millions of Americans who volunteered, and organized, and proved that more than two centuries later, a government of the people, by the people and for the people has not perished from this Earth. This is your victory.

I know you didn't do this just to win an election and I know you didn't do it for me. You did it because you understand the enormity of the task that lies ahead. For even as we celebrate tonight, we know the challenges that tomorrow will bring are the greatest of our lifetime - two wars, a planet in peril, the worst financial crisis in a century.

Even as we stand here tonight, we know there are brave Americans waking up in the deserts of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan to risk their lives for us. There are mothers and fathers who will lie awake after their children fall asleep and wonder how they'll make the mortgage, or pay their doctor's bills, or save enough for college. There is new energy to harness and new jobs to be created; new schools to build and threats to meet and alliances to repair.

The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep. We may not get there in one year or even one term, but America - I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there. I promise you - we as a people will get there.


There will be setbacks and false starts. There are many who won’t agree with every decision or policy I make as President, and we know that government can’t solve every problem. But I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree.


And above all, I will ask you join in the work of remaking this nation the only way it's been done in America for 221 years – block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand.


'Spirit of patriotism'

What began twenty-one months ago in the depths of winter must not end on this autumn night. This victory alone is not the change we seek – it is only the chance for us to make that change. And that cannot happen if we go back to the way things were. It cannot happen without you.


So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism; of service and responsibility where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves, but each other. Let us remember that if this financial crisis taught us anything, it’s that we cannot have a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers – in this country, we rise or fall as one nation, as one people.


Let us resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long. Let us remember that it was a man from this state who first carried the banner of the Republican Party to the White House – a party founded on the values of self-reliance, individual liberty, and national unity.


Those are values we all share, and while the Democratic Party has won a great victory tonight, we do so with a measure of humility and determination to heal the divides that have held back our progress. As Lincoln said to a nation far more divided than ours, "We are not enemies, but friends ... though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection." And to those Americans whose support I have yet to earn – I may not have won your vote, but I hear your voices, I need your help, and I will be your President too.

And to all those watching tonight from beyond our shores, from parliaments and palaces to those who are huddled around radios in the forgotten corners of our world – our stories are singular, but our destiny is shared, and a new dawn of American leadership is at hand.

'Peace and security'

To those who would tear this world down – we will defeat you. To those who seek peace and security – we support you. And to all those who have wondered if America’s beacon still burns as bright – tonight we proved once more that the true strength of our nation comes not from our the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity, and unyielding hope.


For that is the true genius of America – that America can change. Our union can be perfected. And what we have already achieved gives us hope for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.

This election had many firsts and many stories that will be told for generations. But one that’s on my mind tonight is about a woman who cast her ballot in Atlanta. She’s a lot like the millions of others who stood in line to make their voice heard in this election except for one thing – Ann Nixon Cooper is 106 years old.

She was born just a generation past slavery; a time when there were no cars on the road or planes in the sky; when someone like her couldn’t vote for two reasons – because she was a woman and because of the color of her
skin.

And tonight, I think about all that she's seen throughout her century in America – the heartache and the hope; the struggle and the progress; the times we were told that we can’t, and the people who pressed on with that American creed: Yes we can.



'Common purpose'

At a time when women’s voices were silenced and their hopes dismissed, she lived to see them stand up and speak out and reach for the ballot. Yes we can.

When there was despair in the dust bowl and depression across the land, she saw a nation conquer fear itself with a New Deal, new jobs and a new sense of common purpose. Yes we can.

When the bombs fell on our harbor and tyranny threatened the world, she was there to witness a generation rise to greatness and a democracy was saved. Yes we can.

She was there for the buses in Montgomery, the hoses in Birmingham, a bridge in Selma, and a preacher from Atlanta who told a people that “We Shall Overcome.” Yes we can.





'Fundamental truth'


A man touched down on the moon, a wall came down in Berlin, a world was connected by our own science and imagination.


And this year, in this election, she touched her finger to a screen, and cast her vote, because after 106 years in America, through the best of times and the darkest of hours, she knows how America can change. Yes we can.



America, we have come so far. We have seen so much. But there is so much more to do. So tonight, let us ask ourselves – if our children should live to see the next century; if my daughters should be so lucky to live as long as Ann Nixon Cooper, what change will they see?


What progress will we have made?

This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment. This is our time – to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace, to reclaim the American Dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth – that out of many, we are one, that while we breathe, we hope, and where we are met with cynicism, and doubt, and those who tell us that we can't, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people:


Yes We Can. Thank you, God bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America."


Beyond Obama

Democrats Control the
White House, Senate
& House of Representatives:


America Votes for Third Way Policies





We have witnessed a historical liberal victory. A Landslide Majority Victory for the Democrats in the White House, Senate and House of Representatives. This is beyond Obama. Obama is just the symbol of that revolutionary change. This is a new Era for a more liberal America. For a more liberal world. The United States of America has once again proved that it can change. That progress is possible. Last night was your answer. Yes we can. And we will.

In his Victory speech, Obama was sober, full of humility, compassion and determination. Aware of the heavy responsibilities and the dire situation which America and the World has been driven to by 8 years of foolish conservative policies, Obama reached out to the American people from both camps, "for those whose support I must earn, I will be your President, too."


McCain's speech was also indicative of the change to come. McCain must have also realized that the "theories of his GOP party" proved themselves outdated. The ideology of military might and pre-emptive wars was defeated. The fallacy of prosperity trickling down and a market which goes totally unchecked brought catastrophic ends and failed over and over again. That this is a time for more sophisticated policies and not for simplistic or extremist ideologies.


When McCain suspended his campign on September 24th, I think that he was honestly and courageously admitting a fact. I believe it was a personal revelation. Just like that revelation made one month later by Alan Greenspan before the congress. Both men realized that they no longer understood how the real world works. That rigid theories were "flawed" and they failed them. McCain said that "the American people have spoken, and they have poken clearly."
Obama explained that "... the true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity, and unyielding hope."

Despite racial prejudices, the American people elected an African American Obama, for they believed that change of ways, a paradigm shift, was required. They knew exactly what they were voting against. They gave a tremendous majority to the Democrats in the Senate and in the House of Representatives for the same reason. The American people have realized that the failed theories did not work for them. That "a Third Way" must be called in. And their vote last night was the answer to that call.



Congratulations to President-Elect Barack Obama. To VP-Elect Biden. To the American People. To Liberals everywhere. For a fellow liberal will be soon heading the United States of America.


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Friday, October 24, 2008

Congressional Confessions 4

John Cassidy
New Yorker/ Conde Nast Portfolio

He stands accused of making two major mistakes: one, keeping interest rates low for too long and allowing a housing bubble to occur; and, B, abdicating his responsibility as a regulator.



Blame belongs to many
JUDY WOODRUFF: So, Alice Rivlin, is this essentially what Alan Greenspan has said before, we just didn't hear it clearly enough?

ALICE RIVLIN: I don't think so. And I wouldn't be as harsh as Mr. Cassidy. We can't blame all of this on one person. There was blame to go around.

We were victims, the whole country, of a collective delusion that housing prices would keep on going up. And I think we lost control of our common sense.

Many people who bought mortgage-backed securities, who bought other securities that were related to them, didn't ask one simple question, which was, what happens to the value of these securities when housing prices go down, as they eventually would?

Now, Mr. Greenspan said that today, basically. He said the models were based -- the models of risk were based on the past. And that's right.

But you didn't have to be a genius to know that this couldn't continue forever and that the question -- what happens when prices go down? -- should have been asked by a lot of people in the whole system.

JUDY WOODRUFF: You're saying beyond the Fed?

ALICE RIVLIN: Certainly beyond the Fed.

JUDY WOODRUFF: John Cassidy, the other -- go ahead.

JOHN CASSIDY: I mean, I agree with that. I don't think Greenspan is wholly responsible. Obviously, he's not.

You know, the investors were responsible; the bankers were responsible; the media was responsible for not reporting more aggressively on this.

But, you know, the head of the Federal Reserve is meant to be the most senior regulator in the country. And in this instance, you know, he stands accused of making two major mistakes: one, keeping interest rates low for too long and allowing a housing bubble to occur; and, B, abdicating his responsibility as a regulator.

He didn't really address the first of those things today. He did address the second and said he made a partial mistake in not agreeing to the regulation of credit default swaps. But that was the first time he said anything like that. And it was a semi-mea culpa, I guess you'd call it, but I don't think it went all the way.

JUDY WOODRUFF: And, Alice Rivlin, what about that? I mean, he did acknowledge today -- he said he's found a flaw in his understanding, what had been his understanding of how credit markets work. Is that -- how significant...

ALICE RIVLIN: Oh, I think that's very significant, and it isn't just Alan Greenspan. A lot of people were very committed to an ideology, to use that word, that said markets work perfectly or almost perfectly to channel capital into the right places and to correct mistakes.

Well, they don't. When we get into a situation where we have this collective delusion that something that can't go on forever is going to go on forever, we need something to pull us back from the brink.

And I think we'll now have more sensible regulation. I hope we don't over-regulate, but regulation that is somewhere in the middle between "markets always work" and "markets don't work at all."

We need markets. But we need to correct the rules and modernize the regulation so it keeps up with the fast changes.



Alice Rivlin
Former Vice Chair, Federal Reserve Board

And the real question is, should they have used interest rates to slow down a housing bubble and punish the rest of the economy? I don't think that would have been possible.





Debating Greenspan's influence
JUDY WOODRUFF: John Cassidy, is it so clear that, if the decisions that the committee was grilling Alan Greenspan and John Snow and Chris Cox about today, if those decisions had been different, that everything we're going through now could have been avoided or what?

JOHN CASSIDY: I mean, that's an impossible question to answer. I mean, Greenspan's supporters would say that he couldn't have made the difference. I'd say I don't think -- the counterfactual is impossible to define, but I think it would have made some difference.

I mean, these markets just weren't regulated, the credit default swaps. And as Alice says, the mortgage markets were only regulated at the local level.

There were people inside the Fed who were raising issues about these things. Ned Gramlich, the late Ned Gramlich, who was a Fed governor, did issue some warnings to Greenspan and was ignored.

Brooks Lee Bonn, the ex-head of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, tried to get her agency to regulate some of these derivatives and Greenspan brushed her off.

Now, would that have made all the difference? I don't know. It is very, very difficult to deal with a speculative bubble once it gets going. But what you can try and do is try and stop one beginning in the first place. And I think, you know, most of the mistakes were made early on.

JUDY WOODRUFF: How much difference do you think it would have made?

ALICE RIVLIN: I think it would have made some difference. I don't agree that keeping interest rates too low, too long was a major part of it. With hindsight, it might seem to be.

But the Fed was in a difficult situation, because the economy wasn't growing very well. There wasn't any inflation. They're supposed to look after the whole economy.

And the real question is, should they have used interest rates to slow down a housing bubble and punish the rest of the economy? I don't think that would have been possible.

It would have meant raising interest rates so high that it would have killed economic growth. And some of the same people that are fussing it, Mr. Greenspan now, would have begun outraged by that.





John Cassidy
New Yorker/ Conde Nast Portfolio

I think today was more about, you know, what happened in the past. Everybody -- even Greenspan, it appears -- now agrees that there needs to be some form of regulation of these products.





Steps for the future
JUDY WOODRUFF: Does today -- John Cassidy, does what we heard today provide clarity, in terms of what should be done in the future?

JOHN CASSIDY: I think today was more about, you know, what happened in the past. Everybody -- even Greenspan, it appears -- now agrees that there needs to be some form of regulation of these products.

When you get into the details, it's very complicated about what actually needs to be done. I think what's going to have to happen is the next president is going to have to appoint some sort of bipartisan panel or some experts panel, perhaps led by Greenspan's predecessor, Paul Volcker, or somebody of that stature, to come up with a set of detailed suggestions which Congress can then deal upon.

Because one thing we've seen -- I know Greenspan stressed today quite correctly -- the financial system is now incredibly complicated, with all sorts of markets in all sorts of places interconnected. So, you know, you can't rush into regulating.

And as Alice said, there is a danger of over-regulating. But I think something needs to be done.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Alice Rivlin, as we referred in the report there, Alan Greenspan was called the Oracle, the Maestro. What is his reputation -- how has all this affected him and the regard in which he's held?

ALICE RIVLIN: Well, I personally have a high regard for Alan Greenspan. I worked with him. I enjoyed it. He's very smart.

But he is ideological. He did stand in the way of modernizing our regulatory system. And I believe that was a mistake and maybe he does now, too.

The financial structure was changing very, very rapidly, new products, new institutions, and we didn't modernize the regulatory system to keep up with that.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Well, we are going to leave it there. Alice Rivlin, John Cassidy, thank you both.

JOHN CASSIDY: Thank you.


Congressional Confessions 3

Continued
Alice Rivlin
Former Vice Chair, Federal Reserve Board

As this housing bubble grew and took off, lenders were making a lot of loans that they shouldn't have made. And borrowers were borrowing when they shouldn't have made them.



Forecasting the crisis
JUDY WOODRUFF: To get some perspective on today's hearing and what was revealed, we get the views of two people who've watched the Fed closely over the years, one from the inside and one from the outside.

Alice Rivlin served as vice chair of the Federal Reserve in the late 1990s. Also a former director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Clinton, she's now a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.

And John Cassidy, he's a staff writer at the New Yorker and contributing editor at Conde Nast Portfolio. He has covered Alan Greenspan for both magazines.

Thank you both for being with us.

Alice Rivlin, to you first. When Alan Greenspan says we were just not smart enough, no one was smart enough to be able to forecast what was going to happen, first of all, do you agree with him?

ALICE RIVLIN, Former Vice Chair, Federal Reserve Board: Not completely. I think what we failed to do was look at where the incentives in our system were going to get us into trouble.

Now, one was in subprime mortgages. We were not regulating the lenders that were putting out a lot of bad loans, in retrospect.

JUDY WOODRUFF: So you think that information wasn't available?

ALICE RIVLIN: Well, no, I think it was available. These institutions were not federally regulated banks, mostly. They were mortgage lenders who were regulated by the states, if at all.

But as this housing bubble grew and took off, lenders were making a lot of loans that they shouldn't have made. And borrowers were borrowing when they shouldn't have made them.

And then there was another complication, several more, but these loans were being packaged and sold to somebody else to be backing for mortgage-backed securities.

Now, in the old days, the lender really had to watch out that he wasn't making a bad loan because he might not get repaid. But in this new world, he didn't have to worry about that. He could sell this loan to somebody else and then take the money and make another loan. So we got the incentives wrong there.

JUDY WOODRUFF: So you're saying that the information was there and people did have -- should have known better, is basically what you're -- let me bring John Cassidy in.

How significant is it, this statement by Mr. Greenspan that people just didn't know enough to do anything about it?

JOHN CASSIDY, The New Yorker/Portfolio Magazine: Well, it was a remarkable appearance all told, if you think back to 10 years ago, even 5 years ago, how, you know, in what awe Greenspan was held. I covered a lot of hearings on the Hill, and he was treated with great deference, as your report said.

But actually I think he didn't really change his tune that much. During the speculative bubble of the '90s, he used to say, "This is too complicated. Nobody can really understand if it is a bubble."

Then we had a second bubble, the housing bubble, which was obviously linked to the subprime problem. And now he's saying, "Well, that was too complicated, too. Nobody could really understand that, either."

Now, if you think about that, what he's really saying is, you know, he's the top regulator in the country. He's the head of the central bank, but he can't really do anything about the major problems in the economy.

And I think, you know, that's just pushing it a bit.

Congressional Confessions 2

Before I present these questions and answers, I must admit that I am a great fan of Mr Greenspan. In Fact, I remember buying his book "Turbulent Times" with the last few quids I had in my pocket and I had by mistake left my wallet, cash and credit cards at the hotel, so I spent the entire afternoon sitting on Hide Park benches with no food or drink just flipping through the pages of that most interesting book. Then I had to walk back to the hotel, which was a nice and not too long of a walk anyway!

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More Economic Problems





Former Fed Chair Alan Greenspan told Congress Thursday the economic crisis unveiled "a flaw" in his view of world markets. Economic analysts discuss his testimony and legacy.



JIM LEHRER: Judy Woodruff has our financial crisis story tonight.

JUDY WOODRUFF: The former chair of the Federal Reserve and one of the best-known names in finance returned to Capitol Hill today for the first time since the financial crisis began.

Alan Greenspan, who headed the Fed for 18 years, until early 2006, appeared with the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission, Chris Cox, and former Treasury Secretary John Snow, at a hearing examining the role of federal regulators in the current crisis.

ALAN GREENSPAN, Former Federal Reserve Chairman: We are in the midst of a once-in-a-century credit tsunami. Central banks and governments are being required to take unprecedented measures.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Greenspan has been criticized for decisions he made earlier this decade that some economists charge helped to foster the housing bubble.

REP. HENRY WAXMAN (D), California: And my question for you is simple: Were you wrong?

ALAN GREENSPAN: Partially.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Democrats on the committee, led by the chairman, Henry Waxman of California, pressed Greenspan on whether his fundamental economic philosophy was mistaken.

REP. HENRY WAXMAN: The question I have for you is, you had an ideology, you had a belief that free, competitive -- and this is your statement -- "I do have an ideology. My judgment is that free, competitive markets are by far the unrivaled way to organize economies. We've tried regulation. None meaningfully worked." That was your quote.

You had the authority to prevent irresponsible lending practices that led to the subprime mortgage crisis. You were advised to do so by many others. And now our whole economy is paying its price.

Do you feel that your ideology pushed you to make decisions that you wish you had not made?

ALAN GREENSPAN: Well, remember that what an ideology is, is a conceptual framework with the way people deal with reality. Everyone has one. You have to -- to exist, you need an ideology. The question is whether it is accurate or not.

And what I'm saying to you is, yes, I found a flaw. I don't know how significant or permanent it is, but I've been very distressed by that fact.

REP. HENRY WAXMAN: You found a flaw in the reality...

ALAN GREENSPAN: Flaw in the model that I perceived is the critical functioning structure that defines how the world works, so to speak.

REP. HENRY WAXMAN: In other words, you found that your view of the world, your ideology, was not right, it was not working?

ALAN GREENSPAN: That is -- precisely. No, that's precisely the reason I was shocked, because I had been going for 40 years or more with very considerable evidence that it was working exceptionally well.

JUDY WOODRUFF: When he was Fed chair, Greenspan made many appearances before congressional committees and was generally treated with deference. His opinion was widely sought and his words heeded.

But today, in the aftermath of the financial meltdown, Greenspan faced a much rougher reception from Democrats.

Ohio's Dennis Kucinich.

REP. DENNIS KUCINICH (D), Ohio: Â Now, Mr. Greenspan, before the collapse of the housing bubble, didn't you also say that the U.S. has not experienced housing slumps to justify your policy that there would be no bubble? And can you tell this committee when it occurred to you that there was a housing bubble?

ALAN GREENSPAN: I knew -- the housing bubble became clear to me sometime in early 2006, in retrospect. I did not forecast a significant decline because we had never had a significant decline in prices.

And it's only as the process began to emerge that it became clear that we were about to have what essentially was a global decline in home prices.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Republicans sought to shift the focus to the role of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-backed mortgage entities in the crisis.

Idaho Republican Bill Sali asked SEC Chair Cox whether those responsible for the crisis will pay a price.

REP. BILL SALI (R), Idaho: Are the people that have caused this, is somebody going to go to jail?

CHRISTOPHER COX, Chairman, Securities and Exchange Commission: There is no question that, somewhere in this terrible mess, many laws were broken. Right now, the criminal authorities and the civil authorities, not only in the federal government and the state governments, but in other countries, because this is now, as you know, a matter of intense international focus, are working to make sure that lawbreakers are held accountable and people are brought to justice.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Greenspan and Cox contended regulators cannot predict crises. Chairman Waxman took issue with that.

REP. HENRY WAXMAN: Well, I want smart regulation. But I want to point out that what I'm hearing from our witnesses today is that they just didn't know. They couldn't make projections about what the future was or they're not always right.

The truth of the matter is that there were a lot of warning signs. The reasons why we set up your agencies and gave you budget authority to hire people is so that you can see problems developing before they become a financial crisis.

To tell us afterwards, when we are now faced with the disaster that we're seeing, that you couldn't have foreseen it just doesn't satisfy me.

JUDY WOODRUFF: Greenspan, who was once dubbed the Oracle in the world of finance, said his predictive powers were limited.

ALAN GREENSPAN: So it strikes me that, if you go back and ask yourself how in the early years anybody could realistically make a judgment as to what was ultimately going to happen to subprime, I think you're asking more than anybody is capable of judging.

And we have this extraordinarily complex global economy, which as everybody now realizes is very difficult to forecast in any considerable detail.

And, Mr. Chairman, I know -- I agree with you in the fact that there were a lot of people who raised issues about problems emerging, but there are always a lot of people raising issues, and half the time they're wrong. And the question is, what do you do?

I mean, you point out quite correctly that the Federal Reserve had as good an economic organization as exists, and I would say, in the world. If all those extraordinarily capable people were unable to foresee the development of this critical problem, which undoubtedly was the cause of the world problem with respect to mortgage-backed securities, I have to -- I think we have to ask ourselves, why is that?

And the answer is that we're not smart enough as people. We just cannot see events that far in advance. And unless we can, it's very difficult to look back and say, why didn't we catch something?

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